Date   
Re: Federal Regulations link to most current and updated Regs. Published in the Federal Register. Part 97 complete with changes. This was copied from Ian at the Alexandria Club Website.I am posting the link. It's content is current as of February.

Paul Wilson KI4PW
 

Hello Al,

This appears to be a link to 47 CFR Part 97 in its entirety. I see no notations about any changes, and I'm not aware of any significant changes to Part 97 that have made their way through the rule-making process recently.

Parties regularly offer petitions to the FCC re: Part 97, but very few are taken up by the Commission. ARRL is usually the best source--most of us don't have time to wade into the arcana the Federal Register.

You can track FCC actions in the Federal Register here:

https://www.federalregister.gov/agencies/federal-communications-commission

If you search under Part 97, the latest Commission action of any significance re: the Amateur Radio Service covers operations on the 2200m and 630m bands. It dates from 2017.

ARRL Worked All States on 60m?

Paul Wilson
 

Following up on my comments on tonight's net, I pulled the
ARNewsline transcript. It reads:

*"JOHN: It took four years but Andre ZED-S-2-ACP finally worked all 50 of
the United States on 60 metres, receiving the Worked All States award from
the ARRL."*

But, ARRL says 60m contacts are not eligible for the WAS award.

1.


*"3) Two-way communication must be established on amateur bands with each
state. There is no minimum signal report required. Any or all bands may be
used (with the exception of 60 Meters). The District of Columbia may be
counted for Maryland."*

http://www.arrl.org/files/file/WAS_Rules_2015_with_fees.pdf

Federal Regulations link to most current and updated Regs. Published in the Federal Register. Part 97 complete with changes. This was copied from Ian at the Alexandria Club Website.I am posting the link. It's content is current as of February.

DrZ1953
 

Here is the link for CFR 47 and complete Part 97 of interest to all Amateurs.
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=29d07c524e7302d66780275fae519299&rgn=div5&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.6&idno=47
There are quite a few changes.
K4ZB / Al

Link to APRS presentation by Aaron, KN4GXC, is now on w4wvp.org Resources page

Michael Callaham
 

A link to the APRS presentation by Aaron, KN4GXC, is now on the
w4wvp.org Resources page. Thanks to Aaron for the presentation and for
providing the link.

--Mike NW3V
--
Science matters. Matter matters.
Energy matters, including dark energy.

Arlington Amateur Radio Club -- March meeting announcement

Paul Wilson KI4PW
 

Please join us for the March meeting of the Arlington Amateur Radio Club.

Date and time: March 19, 2019, 7 p.m.

Place: St. Thomas More Cathedral School, 105 N. Thomas St, Arlington, Va.

Talk-in: W4WVP/R, 145.470 MHz, -600 kHz offset, PL 107.2

Program: to be determined.

Re: New ARRL podcast for beginners: So Now What?

John Person
 

Thanks, Mike

Jack.

We could probably plug the podcast orally during the net Portion/.

I will have the ARNewsline on the air Tuesday.

jack

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:12 PM Michael Callaham via Groups.Io <vze32sw5=
verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

The new ARRL podcast, So Now What?, is targeted at beginners--say,
those who have passed the Technician Class exam, and are wondering what
to do next. It debuted today. ARRL members and non-members alike may
visit <http://www.arrl.org/so-now-what> and subscribe to the podcast or
scroll down to the archive section and download .mp3 files of previous
podcasts, which is what I did this evening. The introductory podcast is
already available as an archive file for download. It is just over 10
minutes long. The podcast is produced biweekly, alternating with the
"The Doctor Is In" podcast.

Please download or subscribe and listen to it. Do you like it?

I had hoped that this might be something that the W4WVP news hosts
(KK4EBG, W2JWP, KD9XB, and sometimes others) could air, just as they
have aired ARRL Audio News, but I think the licensing is more
restrictive than for ARRL Audio News. The introductory podcast includes
a commercial from LDG, a maker of antenna tuners, and suggests that
future podcasts will also be sponsored by LDG. Airing such commercial
content over the air on Amateur Radio is prohibited by "Part 97,"
that is, Title 47, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 97. There is a
sentence at the end of the introductory podcast prohibiting
unauthorized reproduction etc. I do not yet see a means of requesting
authorization to air the podcast, less the ad. Perhaps that will not be
allowed.

In any case, the podcast is available for download or subscription by
new hams or aspiring-to-be hams or old-timers. I recommend it. You maylike
it.

73 (Best Regards),
--Mike NW3V



--
Science matters. Matter matters.
Energy matters, including dark energy.



New ARRL podcast for beginners: So Now What?

Michael Callaham
 

The new ARRL podcast, So Now What?, is targeted at beginners--say,
those who have passed the Technician Class exam, and are wondering what
to do next. It debuted today. ARRL members and non-members alike may
visit <http://www.arrl.org/so-now-what> and subscribe to the podcast or
scroll down to the archive section and download .mp3 files of previous
podcasts, which is what I did this evening. The introductory podcast is
already available as an archive file for download. It is just over 10
minutes long. The podcast is produced biweekly, alternating with the
"The Doctor Is In" podcast.

Please download or subscribe and listen to it. Do you like it?

I had hoped that this might be something that the W4WVP news hosts
(KK4EBG, W2JWP, KD9XB, and sometimes others) could air, just as they
have aired ARRL Audio News, but I think the licensing is more
restrictive than for ARRL Audio News. The introductory podcast includes
a commercial from LDG, a maker of antenna tuners, and suggests that
future podcasts will also be sponsored by LDG. Airing such commercial
content over the air on Amateur Radio is prohibited by "Part 97,"
that is, Title 47, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 97. There is a
sentence at the end of the introductory podcast prohibiting
unauthorized reproduction etc. I do not yet see a means of requesting
authorization to air the podcast, less the ad. Perhaps that will not be
allowed.

In any case, the podcast is available for download or subscription by
new hams or aspiring-to-be hams or old-timers. I recommend it. You maylike it.

73 (Best Regards),
--Mike NW3V



--
Science matters. Matter matters.
Energy matters, including dark energy.

AMRAD meeting program on Montgomery County CERT and VERT

Michael Callaham
 

Not directly about Arlington or AARC, but I think of interest to some
in the AARC and/or Arlington CERT:

AMRAD has updated their home page at www.amrad.org with this info about
their March meeting:

8<- - - - -
At the March 16 meeting,  Steve Peterson will give a presentation on
Humanity Road/VERT presentation.  Mont Co CERT has developed a program
to retain members’ interest in serving their community. The
presentation discusses virtual activations by their VERT and includes
lessons learned and best practices.
8<- - - - -

I suppose VERT means Virtual Emergency Response Team, but I suppose
we'll have to see and hear the presentation to find out. The AMRAD home
page has full info, not only about where the meeting will be, but also
where to gather for tacos beforehand, which is how one learns when the
meeting will be starting.

Thanks to Al K4ZB for noting that the AMRAD home page has been updated.

I note that the March AMRAD meeting coincides with the first day of the
Virginia QSO Party:
<https://www.qsl.net/sterling/VA_QSO_Party/2019_VQP/2019_VQP_Main.html>
.

You may want to use this opportunity to operate as an expedition
(portable) or mobile station in Fairfax.

73,
--Mike nw3v
--
Science matters. Matter matters.
Energy matters, including dark energy.

VA QSO Party 16-17 March

Paul Wilson KI4PW
 

As mentioned on Tuesday night's net, the Virginia QSO Party will be held on 16 and 17 March. Operating hours are 10 am-12 midnight (local) on Saturday March 16, and 8 am - 8 pm (local) on Sunday March 17. Exchange is QSO serial number and three-character county or independent city abbreviation.

https://www.qsl.net/sterling/VA_QSO_Party/2019_VQP/2019_VQP_Main.html

There are no rule changes from last year.

We always have strong showing with number of QSOs and logs submitted. If you are a club member, make sure you include "Arlington ARC" in the appropriate field of your submitted log.

I hope to operate for at least part of the day on Saturday and Sunday.

Last couple of years 80 meters has been the hot spot for in-state QSOs. Now that I have an outdoor VHF antenna I've upped my totals for 2m contacts. Calling frequency on VHF is 146.580 MHz simplex.

ARES E-letter for February 20, 2019

Michael Callaham
 

The ARES E-letter for February 1620, 2019, is available at:
<http://www.arrl.org/ares-el?issue=2019-02-20>.

73,
--Mike NW3V
--
Science matters. Matter matters.
Energy matters, including dark energy.

Re: beginner question

Jerry
 

Thank you Paul.
I read good things about the Yaesu FT60 but mixed reviews on its replacement the FT65.
I’ll continue to research and maybe I can still find the FT60. It was more than I was initially wanting to spend but, as you said, you get what you pay for.

Jerry

On Feb 19, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Paul Wilson <dcmcrider@...> wrote:

Hi Jerry, and welcome to the group.

I own three handheld radios: a Yaesu FT60, a Baofeng UV-5R, and a Tytera
MD-380. The Tytera operates on analog and DMR (digital mobile radio) in the
440 band. The Yaesu and Baofeng are analog-only FM dual-band (2-meter and
70-cm band.) I don't think a tri-bander (with 220 MHz) is really necessary
as a first radio. The Yaesu was my first radio when I got into the hobby
four years ago and it's given good reliable service. A handheld is a great
way to get started. Handhelds transmitting 5W can hit all the local
repeaters if you have decent line of sight.

The Baofengs have developed a bad rap, not the least of which was generated
last summer by an FCC enforcement action against their importers. The
Baofengs are easily modified to transmit (illegally) outside amateur
frequencies. Of the two as a "Desert Island Radio," I'd definitely pick the
Yaesu. It's very rugged and has much better battery life from the supplied
battery pack. By comparison, the Baofeng's build quality is a little
cheesy. But keep in mind it's also a $30 radio, and you tend to get what
you pay for. With the either one, invest in a decent antenna. The "rubber
duck" that's supplied with the Baofeng--throw it in the junk drawer, or use
it to stir your coffee. That's about all it's good for.

With either radio, I'd strongly recommend picking up a programming cable in
order to use CHIRP.
[https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home] Programming
either rig from the keypad is tedious, although the Yaesu keypad is a
little friendlier. On the Baofeng you have to hunt through menus for *all *the
settings, including squelch. The Yaesu has a squelch knob, which I much
prefer, and you can access various features like "reverse" with one touch
from the keypad. The Baofeng also emits a loud and annoying "pop" when the
squelch opens.

These are just one user's opinion. Ask around.

Paul / KI4PW

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:33 PM Jerry <jerry_foster1@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I initially sent this to the club’s general email account and Mike
Callaham, NW3V, suggested i submit to this group.

My son and I are studying for the Technician Class license exam and at the
same time are learning about and researching to buy our first radio.
Unfortunately I’ll be traveling for work this week and am not able to
attend the monthly meeting or I would introduce myself and ask in person.

I’m thinking of starting with a handheld transceiver and adding/upgrading
from there as we grow into it.

The Baofeng’s seem to get good reviews as an entry-level radio at an
affordable price.
I found one model (UV-5X3) that is a tri-band that includes the 220-225
MHz band.
From what I’ve read on-line, that band has been less-used in the past but
I don’t know if that has changed.

so my questions are:
1. Should I look only at radios that include the 220-225MHz band? is this
an important feature for a first radio?
2. Do you have any concerns about starting with a handheld?
3. Do you have any comments or concerns about Baofeng’s in general? Until
I saw the UV-5X3 I was looking at the UV-82HP or the BF-F8HP (though the
lower speaker power has me leaning towards the UV-82HP).

thank you for your time,
Jerry Foster




Re: beginner question

John Person
 

Thanks for sharing, Paul

See you tonight.

Jack Person

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 9:15 AM
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AARC-PUBLIC] beginner question

Hi Jerry, and welcome to the group.

I own three handheld radios: a Yaesu FT60, a Baofeng UV-5R, and a Tytera MD-380. The Tytera operates on analog and DMR (digital mobile radio) in the
440 band. The Yaesu and Baofeng are analog-only FM dual-band (2-meter and 70-cm band.) I don't think a tri-bander (with 220 MHz) is really necessary as a first radio. The Yaesu was my first radio when I got into the hobby four years ago and it's given good reliable service. A handheld is a great way to get started. Handhelds transmitting 5W can hit all the local repeaters if you have decent line of sight.

The Baofengs have developed a bad rap, not the least of which was generated last summer by an FCC enforcement action against their importers. The Baofengs are easily modified to transmit (illegally) outside amateur frequencies. Of the two as a "Desert Island Radio," I'd definitely pick the Yaesu. It's very rugged and has much better battery life from the supplied battery pack. By comparison, the Baofeng's build quality is a little cheesy. But keep in mind it's also a $30 radio, and you tend to get what you pay for. With the either one, invest in a decent antenna. The "rubber duck" that's supplied with the Baofeng--throw it in the junk drawer, or use it to stir your coffee. That's about all it's good for.

With either radio, I'd strongly recommend picking up a programming cable in order to use CHIRP.
[https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home] Programming either rig from the keypad is tedious, although the Yaesu keypad is a little friendlier. On the Baofeng you have to hunt through menus for *all *the settings, including squelch. The Yaesu has a squelch knob, which I much prefer, and you can access various features like "reverse" with one touch from the keypad. The Baofeng also emits a loud and annoying "pop" when the squelch opens.

These are just one user's opinion. Ask around.

Paul / KI4PW

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:33 PM Jerry <jerry_foster1@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I initially sent this to the club’s general email account and Mike
Callaham, NW3V, suggested i submit to this group.

My son and I are studying for the Technician Class license exam and at
the same time are learning about and researching to buy our first radio.
Unfortunately I’ll be traveling for work this week and am not able to
attend the monthly meeting or I would introduce myself and ask in person.

I’m thinking of starting with a handheld transceiver and
adding/upgrading from there as we grow into it.

The Baofeng’s seem to get good reviews as an entry-level radio at an
affordable price.
I found one model (UV-5X3) that is a tri-band that includes the
220-225 MHz band.
From what I’ve read on-line, that band has been less-used in the past
but I don’t know if that has changed.

so my questions are:
1. Should I look only at radios that include the 220-225MHz band? is
this an important feature for a first radio?
2. Do you have any concerns about starting with a handheld?
3. Do you have any comments or concerns about Baofeng’s in general?
Until I saw the UV-5X3 I was looking at the UV-82HP or the BF-F8HP
(though the lower speaker power has me leaning towards the UV-82HP).

thank you for your time,
Jerry Foster



Re: beginner question

Paul Wilson
 

Hi Jerry, and welcome to the group.

I own three handheld radios: a Yaesu FT60, a Baofeng UV-5R, and a Tytera
MD-380. The Tytera operates on analog and DMR (digital mobile radio) in the
440 band. The Yaesu and Baofeng are analog-only FM dual-band (2-meter and
70-cm band.) I don't think a tri-bander (with 220 MHz) is really necessary
as a first radio. The Yaesu was my first radio when I got into the hobby
four years ago and it's given good reliable service. A handheld is a great
way to get started. Handhelds transmitting 5W can hit all the local
repeaters if you have decent line of sight.

The Baofengs have developed a bad rap, not the least of which was generated
last summer by an FCC enforcement action against their importers. The
Baofengs are easily modified to transmit (illegally) outside amateur
frequencies. Of the two as a "Desert Island Radio," I'd definitely pick the
Yaesu. It's very rugged and has much better battery life from the supplied
battery pack. By comparison, the Baofeng's build quality is a little
cheesy. But keep in mind it's also a $30 radio, and you tend to get what
you pay for. With the either one, invest in a decent antenna. The "rubber
duck" that's supplied with the Baofeng--throw it in the junk drawer, or use
it to stir your coffee. That's about all it's good for.

With either radio, I'd strongly recommend picking up a programming cable in
order to use CHIRP.
[https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home] Programming
either rig from the keypad is tedious, although the Yaesu keypad is a
little friendlier. On the Baofeng you have to hunt through menus for *all *the
settings, including squelch. The Yaesu has a squelch knob, which I much
prefer, and you can access various features like "reverse" with one touch
from the keypad. The Baofeng also emits a loud and annoying "pop" when the
squelch opens.

These are just one user's opinion. Ask around.

Paul / KI4PW

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:33 PM Jerry <jerry_foster1@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I initially sent this to the club’s general email account and Mike
Callaham, NW3V, suggested i submit to this group.

My son and I are studying for the Technician Class license exam and at the
same time are learning about and researching to buy our first radio.
Unfortunately I’ll be traveling for work this week and am not able to
attend the monthly meeting or I would introduce myself and ask in person.

I’m thinking of starting with a handheld transceiver and adding/upgrading
from there as we grow into it.

The Baofeng’s seem to get good reviews as an entry-level radio at an
affordable price.
I found one model (UV-5X3) that is a tri-band that includes the 220-225
MHz band.
From what I’ve read on-line, that band has been less-used in the past but
I don’t know if that has changed.

so my questions are:
1. Should I look only at radios that include the 220-225MHz band? is this
an important feature for a first radio?
2. Do you have any concerns about starting with a handheld?
3. Do you have any comments or concerns about Baofeng’s in general? Until
I saw the UV-5X3 I was looking at the UV-82HP or the BF-F8HP (though the
lower speaker power has me leaning towards the UV-82HP).

thank you for your time,
Jerry Foster



beginner question

Jerry
 

Hello all,
I initially sent this to the club’s general email account and Mike Callaham, NW3V, suggested i submit to this group.

My son and I are studying for the Technician Class license exam and at the same time are learning about and researching to buy our first radio.
Unfortunately I’ll be traveling for work this week and am not able to attend the monthly meeting or I would introduce myself and ask in person.

I’m thinking of starting with a handheld transceiver and adding/upgrading from there as we grow into it.

The Baofeng’s seem to get good reviews as an entry-level radio at an affordable price.
I found one model (UV-5X3) that is a tri-band that includes the 220-225 MHz band.
From what I’ve read on-line, that band has been less-used in the past but I don’t know if that has changed.

so my questions are:
1. Should I look only at radios that include the 220-225MHz band? is this an important feature for a first radio?
2. Do you have any concerns about starting with a handheld?
3. Do you have any comments or concerns about Baofeng’s in general? Until I saw the UV-5X3 I was looking at the UV-82HP or the BF-F8HP (though the lower speaker power has me leaning towards the UV-82HP).

thank you for your time,
Jerry Foster

Re: AARC February Meeting Notice

Michael Callaham
 

Ramp access for mobility devices will not be available at the February
meeting. The home page at w4wvp.org has been updated to note this. Ramp
access is expected to be available at future meetings.

73,
--Mike NW3V

On Tue, 2019-02-12 at 07:15 -0800, Paul Wilson KI4PW wrote:
...
--
Science matters. Matter matters.
Energy matters, including dark energy.

FCC seeks comment on proposed rule-making re: station ID

Paul Wilson KI4PW
 

As mentioned on last evening's Arlington County Net, the FCC is inviting public comment on a proposal that would modify station identification rules during emergency nets, drills, and activations.

Here's the ARRL's write-up:

http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-invites-comments-on-amateur-radio-related-petition-for-rule-making

The FCC has invited public comments on a Petition for Rule Making (RM-11826) from an Ohio radio amateur seeking to amend the Part 97 station identification rules to better accommodate and simplify station identification during an emergency net, drill, or activation. ARRL member Robert A. Dukish, KK8DX, filed the petition in December, and the FCC put it on public notice this week. Dukish seeks a change to Section 97.119(a) of the rules, which requires an amateur station to transmit its “assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication.”

He noted that during emergency networks, requiring participating stations — often portable — to use their assigned call signs during each transmission could prove “burdensome and can hinder the flow of emergency traffic on the channel.”

Specifically, he is suggesting that a simple approach would be to permit the net control station or other designated participant to announce from a single point the call signs of every station taking part in the net or exercise, when tactical call signs often are in use, at 10-minute intervals, using automatic CW identification.

Dukish suggested amending Section 97.119(a) to add, “except during a local emergency network activation or drill,” and providing that in such situations, a net control or designations station would be “authorized to announce all participating stations’ assigned call signs at no more than 10-minute intervals while the net is in progress.” The amendment would provide that participating stations “be within a 50-mile distance of the identifying station, and each individual station must self-identify by transmitting its assigned call sign at least once per hour.” CW transmission could be no faster than 25 WPM if sent automatically to satisfy the suggested amendment.

In his petition, Dukish noted petitions filed in 2005 and 2006 seeking changes to the Amateur Radio station identification rules. The FCC did not adopt either proposal.

Interested parties may comment via the FCC Electronic Comment Filing Service (ECFS).

AARC February Meeting Notice

Paul Wilson KI4PW
 

Please join us for the February meeting of the Arlington Amateur Radio Club.

Date and time: February 19, 2019, 7 p.m.

Place: St. Thomas More Cathedral School, 105 N. Thomas St, Arlington, Va.

Talk-in: W4WVP/R, 145.470 MHz, -600 kHz offset, PL 107.2

Program: APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System) by Aaron, KN4GXC.

Re: Sub audible tones for our repeaters on website

John Person
 

Thanks, Al!

jack

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:41 AM DrZ <@DrZ1953> wrote:

John,
You are not right! The sub-audible Tone (CTCSS) is used to transmit to the
repeater from your radio. The REPEATER always hears the tone on it's
Receive frequency that you are sending to it, and, this allows the
repeater to open to your radio transmissions. The tone opens the repeater
for each and every transmission when you push the PTT switch. The 145.47Mhz
machine uses a tone of 107.2 Hz on it's receive. You HEAR the repeater
600Hz up from the frequency that you that you actually transmit to the
repeater (144.870) on your transmit frequency only.. With a tone to the
repeater of 107.2 to open it. In this case you actually transmit to the
repeater on 144.870Mhz with a tone. Tone is used on transmit only. Tone
must be transmitted to the repeater for it to open and work. Tone is a way
of squelching a repeater from interference to and from other repeaters.
Now... the UHF repeater uses a different Tone. Check out the Arlington web
page or buy a repeater directory for other tones for other repeaters.!
Repeaters are listed in the directories by receive frequency. And, plus
or minus is used to tell you if your transmit frequency is above or below
the repeaters output frequency. Almost all repeaters in Virginia and the
country use CTCSS tones on the repeaters Receive frequency.

The webpage is absolutely correct: I have reprinted the Website extract
for you.

"About W4WVP Repeaters
The W4WVP 2-meter repeater is located in Arlington County and utilizes
several remote receivers. This repeater is open for general amateur use. It
transmits on 145.47 MHz and receives on 144.87 MHz. A subaudible PL (CTCSS)
tone of 107.2 Hz is required on your 144.87 MHz signal to access it.

The W4WVP 70-cm repeater, donated by member Dennis Welch, WB7VUM, is also
located in Arlington County and is open for general amateur use. It
transmits on 449.325 MHz and receives on 444.325 MHz. A subaudible PL
(CTCSS) tone of 151.4 Hz is required on your 444.325 MHz signal to access
it."

YOU never transmit on the repeater's output frequency of 145.47Mhz. ...
unless it is a simplex test only or the repeater is down. 145.47Mhz is
where the repeater transmits only and no tone is required for you to
receive.

Al /K4ZB

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Person
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 19:02
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: [AARC-PUBLIC] Sub audible tones for our repeaters on website

Dear Fellow AARC people

Attached is a page from our website.

My reading shows the subaudible tones on the listening channels.

I am right?

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Benn Kobb
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:15 AM
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: [AARC-PUBLIC] AMSAT Symposium Ballston

The 2019 AMSAT 50th Anniversary Symposium will take place on October 18 –
20 at the Hilton Arlington in Arlington, Virginia, next to Washington, DC.
Connected to the Ballston Metro Station, the hotel offers easy access to
the capital’s top tourist destinations, and tours will be available; it’s 6
miles from Reagan National Airport. The AMSAT Board of Directors will meet
on October 16 – 17. — From ARRL News









--
Al Zodun / K4ZB



Re: Sub audible tones for our repeaters on website

Roy Nickelson
 

Jack,
There is no attachment in your message.
I am not sure what you mean by "listening channels" There is a transmit frequency and receive frequency.
Below is the text I think you are referring to with further comment below that.

The W4WVP 2-meter repeater is located in Arlington County and utilizes several remote receivers. This repeater is open for general amateur use. It transmits
on 145.47 MHz and receives on 144.87 MHz. A subaudible PL (
CTCSS)
tone of 107.2 Hz is required on your 144.87 MHz signal to access it.

The W4WVP 70-cm repeater, donated by member Dennis Welch, WB7VUM, is also located in Arlington County and is open for general amateur use. It transmits
on 449.325 MHz and receives on 444.325 MHz. A subaudible PL (
CTCSS)
tone of 151.4 Hz is required on your 444.325 MHz signal to access it.

So tone for the 2m repeater is required on the 144.87 (your transmit frequency or the repeater input or the repeater receive frequency).
The same thing goes for the UHF repeater. The tone is required on your transmit frequency. (444.325.

Hope this helps
Roy
AI4GO

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Person
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:02 PM
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: [AARC-PUBLIC] Sub audible tones for our repeaters on website

Dear Fellow AARC people

Attached is a page from our website.

My reading shows the subaudible tones on the listening channels.

I am right?

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Benn Kobb
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:15 AM
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: [AARC-PUBLIC] AMSAT Symposium Ballston

The 2019 AMSAT 50th Anniversary Symposium will take place on October 18 – 20 at the Hilton Arlington in Arlington, Virginia, next to Washington, DC. Connected to the Ballston Metro Station, the hotel offers easy access to the capital’s top tourist destinations, and tours will be available; it’s 6 miles from Reagan National Airport. The AMSAT Board of Directors will meet on October 16 – 17. — From ARRL News

Re: Sub audible tones for our repeaters on website

Paul Wilson KI4PW
 

I thought the 47 machine does have an output tone of 107.2 Hz. It's up to you whether you set the tone squelch on your radios for Rx.

73, KI4PW / Paul

On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:41 AM, DrZ <@DrZ1953> wrote:

John,
You are not right! The sub-audible Tone (CTCSS) is used to transmit to the repeater from your radio. The REPEATER always hears the tone on it's Receive frequency that you are sending to it, and, this allows the repeater to open to your radio transmissions. The tone opens the repeater for each and every transmission when you push the PTT switch. The 145.47Mhz machine uses a tone of 107.2 Hz on it's receive. You HEAR the repeater 600Hz up from the frequency that you that you actually transmit to the repeater (144.870) on your transmit frequency only.. With a tone to the repeater of 107.2 to open it. In this case you actually transmit to the repeater on 144.870Mhz with a tone. Tone is used on transmit only. Tone must be transmitted to the repeater for it to open and work. Tone is a way of squelching a repeater from interference to and from other repeaters.
Now... the UHF repeater uses a different Tone. Check out the Arlington web page or buy a repeater directory for other tones for other repeaters.! Repeaters are listed in the directories by receive frequency. And, plus or minus is used to tell you if your transmit frequency is above or below the repeaters output frequency. Almost all repeaters in Virginia and the country use CTCSS tones on the repeaters Receive frequency.

The webpage is absolutely correct: I have reprinted the Website extract for you.

"About W4WVP Repeaters
The W4WVP 2-meter repeater is located in Arlington County and utilizes several remote receivers. This repeater is open for general amateur use. It transmits on 145.47 MHz and receives on 144.87 MHz. A subaudible PL (CTCSS) tone of 107.2 Hz is required on your 144.87 MHz signal to access it.

The W4WVP 70-cm repeater, donated by member Dennis Welch, WB7VUM, is also located in Arlington County and is open for general amateur use. It transmits on 449.325 MHz and receives on 444.325 MHz. A subaudible PL (CTCSS) tone of 151.4 Hz is required on your 444.325 MHz signal to access it."

YOU never transmit on the repeater's output frequency of 145.47Mhz. ... unless it is a simplex test only or the repeater is down. 145.47Mhz is where the repeater transmits only and no tone is required for you to receive.

Al /K4ZB

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Person
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 19:02
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: [AARC-PUBLIC] Sub audible tones for our repeaters on website

Dear Fellow AARC people

Attached is a page from our website.

My reading shows the subaudible tones on the listening channels.

I am right?

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io <AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Benn Kobb
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 6:15 AM
To: AARC-PUBLIC@groups.io
Subject: [AARC-PUBLIC] AMSAT Symposium Ballston

The 2019 AMSAT 50th Anniversary Symposium will take place on October 18 – 20 at the Hilton Arlington in Arlington, Virginia, next to Washington, DC. Connected to the Ballston Metro Station, the hotel offers easy access to the capital’s top tourist destinations, and tours will be available; it’s 6 miles from Reagan National Airport. The AMSAT Board of Directors will meet on October 16 – 17. — From ARRL News









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Al Zodun / K4ZB